31 January 2013

One last post about, y'know, those two.

So I posted about the little kerfuffle between Shea and Voris.  My critique of how Shea goes about critiquing Voris comes down to this:  If Shea wishes to disagree with Voris, he would do better to discuss something specific rather than make comments that boil down to "Voris is a big meanie who says nasty things about nice people."

Today, Shea himself linked this post, wherein a blogger says, in brief, that they liked Voris, that Voris gave voice to many of the problems they believed were plaguing the modern Church, but now has started to disagree with some of what Voris has to say.  They then- and this is the important part- go over several exact quotations from Voris himself, and state with what it is they disagree, and why.  If Shea wishes to continue with his disagreements with Voris, he would do well to do more than simply link to this blogger, but also follow what they do, and stop with the ad hominem.  Voris fans who disagree with the blogger in question, would do well to do the same.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree! While I tend to agree with Shea, a bit more substance in his arguments would be nice. I'm sure we are all a bit sick and tired of ad hominem attacks.

Mary N. said...

The thing about Mark Shea is that his delivery system is horrendous Let's face it: no Catholic should be writing that way. And his combox is even worse. I probably shouldn't add this but I don't understand why the priests that comment on his blog don't call him on his lack of charity. Some of them add to his poor behavior by agreeing with him. And then, to top it off, when someone does ask one of the priests why they don't speak up the person is slammed by half a dozen people in the combox. I don't get this at all. Maybe you have a few insights? I'm sure you've seen this too.

Having said that, I also have to add that some of his stuff is quite good and he makes some valid points. Too bad he doesn't stick to the area he excels in.

It's as if there are two Mark Sheas...

Freyr said...

The trouble with Shea and Voris is that whatever you think of their respective styles the pair of them agree on trial by combox as a way to get at the truth. The real problem is that Catholics are so poorly catechized that they find it difficult to discern the truth in this morass of combox mayhem.